ABC cams are good but...
Apr 8, 2006 | 06:11 PM
#11
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Originally Posted by Speeds8erM-1
Who cares if the alphabet cams work, you could still go faster with something else. No sense in staying in the cave man era. This is another reason why the LS1 guys are LIGHT YEARS ahead on n/a street engines, their wild heads help also. 
Apr 10, 2006 | 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Speeds8erM-1
Who cares if the alphabet cams work, you could still go faster with something else. No sense in staying in the cave man era. This is another reason why the LS1 guys are LIGHT YEARS ahead on n/a street engines, their wild heads help also.
Cylinder heads are the sole reason why they are SO much better then the 5.0. But, luckily, many aftermarket companies are FINALLY producing cylinder heads that create flow.
Apr 10, 2006 | 10:36 PM
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I personaly feel that every single time an LS based motor has rolled off the assembly line, an honest to goodness Miracle has occured. What do you guys say to us droppin Ratzinger a holler and get the Vatican over here to investigate? 
Apr 11, 2006 | 08:23 AM
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hehehe.. yeah, its almost that good... 
Speeds8er nailed it though, the part of the LS1 community that actually digs into their motors is extremely broad -- heck you can't drive around Houston without seeing at least a couple cammed Camaros or Corvettes. The Mustang community by and large sticks to bolt-ons. A Mustang is guaranteed to have a K&N and a pair of Flowmaster 2 chambers, and maybe some underdrive pulleys, but not often much beyond that. I personally attribute that to a lack of readily-available knowledge. Lets face it, most everyone with a performance car that WOULD mod it, would like to do it himself in his own garage. We are by nature tinkerers. But, you take one look at a modular motor and most people get intimidated by it and fear they can't accomplish some of the more "internal" tasks. So, you don't see things like cam swaps unless they were done by a shop.
We aim to change that around here
Speeds8er nailed it though, the part of the LS1 community that actually digs into their motors is extremely broad -- heck you can't drive around Houston without seeing at least a couple cammed Camaros or Corvettes. The Mustang community by and large sticks to bolt-ons. A Mustang is guaranteed to have a K&N and a pair of Flowmaster 2 chambers, and maybe some underdrive pulleys, but not often much beyond that. I personally attribute that to a lack of readily-available knowledge. Lets face it, most everyone with a performance car that WOULD mod it, would like to do it himself in his own garage. We are by nature tinkerers. But, you take one look at a modular motor and most people get intimidated by it and fear they can't accomplish some of the more "internal" tasks. So, you don't see things like cam swaps unless they were done by a shop.
We aim to change that around here
Apr 11, 2006 | 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Brains
hehehe.. yeah, its almost that good...
Speeds8er nailed it though, the part of the LS1 community that actually digs into their motors is extremely broad -- heck you can't drive around Houston without seeing at least a couple cammed Camaros or Corvettes. The Mustang community by and large sticks to bolt-ons. A Mustang is guaranteed to have a K&N and a pair of Flowmaster 2 chambers, and maybe some underdrive pulleys, but not often much beyond that. I personally attribute that to a lack of readily-available knowledge. Lets face it, most everyone with a performance car that WOULD mod it, would like to do it himself in his own garage. We are by nature tinkerers. But, you take one look at a modular motor and most people get intimidated by it and fear they can't accomplish some of the more "internal" tasks. So, you don't see things like cam swaps unless they were done by a shop.
We aim to change that around here
Speeds8er nailed it though, the part of the LS1 community that actually digs into their motors is extremely broad -- heck you can't drive around Houston without seeing at least a couple cammed Camaros or Corvettes. The Mustang community by and large sticks to bolt-ons. A Mustang is guaranteed to have a K&N and a pair of Flowmaster 2 chambers, and maybe some underdrive pulleys, but not often much beyond that. I personally attribute that to a lack of readily-available knowledge. Lets face it, most everyone with a performance car that WOULD mod it, would like to do it himself in his own garage. We are by nature tinkerers. But, you take one look at a modular motor and most people get intimidated by it and fear they can't accomplish some of the more "internal" tasks. So, you don't see things like cam swaps unless they were done by a shop.
We aim to change that around here
Apr 13, 2006 | 12:17 PM
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I'd say there's a lot more "non-technical" LS1 guys doing internal mods than the average any other group of car folk. Now keep in mind, I'm not talking about the upper eschelon who modify everything they own themselves (including spraying the lawnmower, not that I'd know anything about that). I'm talking about the average Joe you'll find cruising out to a street meet on the weekends. The internet is changing things rapidly, and the LS1 community really took off with the rapid transfer of knowledge. There's a large number of VERY talented and knowledgable Ford guys, but many tend to either not share their knowledge, or not share it on the internet because they've "been there done that." The thing is, there's a lot of very curious, eager, and capable folks out there who only need a little access to info.
Apr 13, 2006 | 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Brains
I'd say there's a lot more "non-technical" LS1 guys doing internal mods than the average any other group of car folk. Now keep in mind, I'm not talking about the upper eschelon who modify everything they own themselves (including spraying the lawnmower, not that I'd know anything about that). I'm talking about the average Joe you'll find cruising out to a street meet on the weekends. The internet is changing things rapidly, and the LS1 community really took off with the rapid transfer of knowledge. There's a large number of VERY talented and knowledgable Ford guys, but many tend to either not share their knowledge, or not share it on the internet because they've "been there done that." The thing is, there's a lot of very curious, eager, and capable folks out there who only need a little access to info.
anyways, you have a point with that. a LOT of the fox/sn95 cars ive seen have either nothing or just bolt ons. the thing is the 5.0 has been around a lot longer and there seems to be less about em on the interenet, its weird.