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Vendetta 03-31-2006 05:59 PM

MMA fans inside
 
I post a lot of MMA threads over at LS1TECH, just wondering who around here watches or trains in any kind of MMA.

Chris89Stang 03-31-2006 07:11 PM

I try to watch most of the UFC PPV's and some of the Pride. Also watch UFC Unleashed, Fight Nights, and Ultimate Fighter on Spike and the free Pride stuff on Fox Sports.

MillaTK 03-31-2006 07:51 PM

I watch UFC Unleashed whenever I can catch it... would like to do some kind of MMA training, but I think its illegal in NY.

-Ross- 03-31-2006 08:39 PM

I watch UFC everytime I can, whether it's on cable or PPV.

That Rampage news you posted over on LS1Tech was kickass news to hear!

LS1 KLR 04-01-2006 12:10 AM

I try to keep up with the UFC and Pride stuff....got some friends who are training mma stuff now....cool to learn some new moves! :devil:

Arlovski vs. Silva 2 should be a good one!

Vendetta 04-01-2006 12:54 AM


Originally Posted by Chris89Stang
I try to watch most of the UFC PPV's and some of the Pride. Also watch UFC Unleashed, Fight Nights, and Ultimate Fighter on Spike and the free Pride stuff on Fox Sports.

Cool man :thumb: I've been a casual fan since TUF season 1, but really got obsessed this fall. I bought a heavy bag and some training equipment and my obsession just got worse.


Originally Posted by MillaTK
I watch UFC Unleashed whenever I can catch it... would like to do some kind of MMA training, but I think its illegal in NY.

Kevin, major MMA matches are still outlawed in NY State, but you can train MMA almost anywhere. Mixed martial encompasses every martial art you can think of from American/Western boxing to Brazilian jiu-jitsu (although some work much better than others). Find a place local to you that teaches Muay Thai, Boxing, or Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu. They are the big three to begin a base off of if you're really interested in starting MMA. You're not a huge guy so BJJ would be the best for you.

Others I'd recommend are Kyokushin Karate and Freestyle Wrestling.

As an example, the last time you saw me I weighed around 240 lbs. Now I'm down to around 205 just training in my basement about an hour per night. It's done wonders to get me in shape.


Originally Posted by Ross 87
I watch UFC everytime I can, whether it's on cable or PPV.

That Rampage news you posted over on LS1Tech was kickass news to hear!

Yeah, it's still widely rumor and Rampage won't confirm it, but sources close to him say he's looking mostly at the UFC or IFL because they covet him more than Pride. We'll see what happens, I really want to see him fight Babalu, Tito, or Chuck in UFC.

Blue91 04-02-2006 11:17 AM

I'm into it as well. I follow both of the big orgs and am interested in seeing what the IFL brings to the table since they now have a TV deal with Fox Sports.

I am wanting to get back into shape and while I'd always done gym workouts, it's kinda boring these days. There a BJJ place near my new job that I have thought about joining. I talked to the instructor/owner (BJJ BB) and he assured me there's no such thing as "too much of a beginner" there. He said they have a lot of people who just start out of nowhere. I might give it a try just to give myself a change of pace and more motivation than the gym gives me. No workout partners tends to do that. At the same time, I have no delusions of grandeur or anything regarding the BJJ, haha.

Speeds8erM-1 04-02-2006 02:50 PM

Im a big MMA fan, I prefer Pride over UFC. Go Shogun, Silva and Fedor!!!!!!!

Blue91 04-02-2006 03:47 PM


Originally Posted by Speeds8erM-1
Im a big MMA fan, I prefer Pride over UFC. Go Shogun, Silva and Fedor!!!!!!!

Too bad 2 out of those 3 are out the majority (if not all of in Shogun's case) the 2006 year.

Speeds8erM-1 04-02-2006 04:55 PM

Yea, damn funny landing on the takedown = fubar arm for Shogun and Fedor is getting that much needed hand surgery.

MillaTK 04-02-2006 07:07 PM


Originally Posted by Vendetta
Kevin, major MMA matches are still outlawed in NY State, but you can train MMA almost anywhere. Mixed martial encompasses every martial art you can think of from American/Western boxing to Brazilian jiu-jitsu (although some work much better than others). Find a place local to you that teaches Muay Thai, Boxing, or Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu. They are the big three to begin a base off of if you're really interested in starting MMA. You're not a huge guy so BJJ would be the best for you.

Others I'd recommend are Kyokushin Karate and Freestyle Wrestling.

As an example, the last time you saw me I weighed around 240 lbs. Now I'm down to around 205 just training in my basement about an hour per night. It's done wonders to get me in shape.

Dude, thats awesome! Looks like the dieting and working out has been paying off, congrats dude :cheers:

I joined my school's rugby team this year, and thats definitely been helping me get in some better shape. The problem I have, is that I go away to school, so I'm here for a semester, then a month at home, then here for another semester, then back home for another couple months. I took Aikido for 4 years or so during high school, and I had a knee injury that kept me out of it for a couple months, and it sucked when I came back and had to catch back up. I'd like to be able to commit to something full time, and with going back and forth between school and home, I don't think I'll be able to commit 100%. That being said, I think I'm gonna get a heavy bag this summer and work on that, and just lift and run and stuff to stay in shape.

Speeds8erM-1 04-02-2006 07:31 PM

Stay away from Aikido. Good for exercise, not practical fighting.

MillaTK 04-02-2006 11:10 PM


Originally Posted by Speeds8erM-1
Stay away from Aikido. Good for exercise, not practical fighting.

I have come to realize this, which is one of the reasons I don't take it anymore. There are a few things that are practical, but its really limited.

Speeds8erM-1 04-03-2006 12:01 AM

Yep, stick with BJJ, muai tai, boxing and wrestling. I wasted years on Tang Soo Doo when I was younger, bleh.

baddogz28 04-03-2006 10:01 AM

+1 MMA fan here. I'm new to the board and it is great. :lol:

Vendetta 04-03-2006 02:42 PM

Awesome, good amount of MMA fans here.

IFL will be incredible just due to the coaches. Any time you have Bas, Mo Smith, Pat Miletich, and Renzo Gracie coaching anywhere you know the teams will be competitive. April 29th fellas, order up! I'm actually thinking about going since it's in AC.

I can't wait to see Shogun v. Coleman II. I think Shogun will crush him the second time around. He's looking good as a heavyweight and his little brother fits in much better at 183.

Anybody ordering Bushido 10 tonight?

baddogz28 04-03-2006 04:14 PM

I was thinking about it, but I don't know if I'll order.

Ling_650vette 04-03-2006 05:44 PM

I might be a moocher and just tune into the PPV channel and listen :jest:

Speeds8erM-1 04-03-2006 06:33 PM


Originally Posted by Vendetta
Awesome, good amount of MMA fans here.

IFL will be incredible just due to the coaches. Any time you have Bas, Mo Smith, Pat Miletich, and Renzo Gracie coaching anywhere you know the teams will be competitive. April 29th fellas, order up! I'm actually thinking about going since it's in AC.

I can't wait to see Shogun v. Coleman II. I think Shogun will crush him the second time around. He's looking good as a heavyweight and his little brother fits in much better at 183.

Anybody ordering Bushido 10 tonight?

Already read the play by play and watched some of the videos online. I have cable but no digital cable so no ordering for me here.

BigBronco 04-03-2006 08:23 PM

I keep up with Pride fighting. Sherdog.com is great

Speeds8erM-1 04-03-2006 11:24 PM

Sherdog is okay but damn they need to do something with that place, it's like a circus, ahh well, I read there and mma.tv

Vendetta 04-03-2006 11:55 PM

Bushido was pretty fucking good.

I was looking forward to the Ninja fight but it was atrocious, the guy he was fighting was like a mini-Arona... he was a fucking blanket. Lay n pray at it's finest...

The Pulver fight, although short, was fucking great. I'm a huge Little Evil fan.

The circus is over, get Giant Silva the fuck out of MMA. To nobody's surprise, Minowa whooped him. Whenever a 7'2" 400 lb guy gets whipped in less than a minute by a fucking welterweight, he deserves to be shot. If this guy gets another fight I'll shit myself.

The Gomi fight, well... no spoilers, so all I'll say is WOW.

I was disappointed they didn't show the Baroni fight. I heard he beat Kondo before I ordered Bushido, I wanted to see the fight though.

Gray, what's your Sherdog SN? Or do you just lurk? I'm Big Eck over there.

Blue91 04-04-2006 06:59 AM

They will be showing the 3 fights not shown on the PPV this coming Sunday on Fox Sports Net. This includes the Baroni fight.

I'm "Fred in Houston" over there, but I rarely post.

Chris89Stang 04-04-2006 10:18 AM

Just a FYI: on SpikeTV Thursday (6th) there is a new Ultimate Fight Night and the new season of Ultimate Fighter starts after it.

BORN2LOSE 04-04-2006 11:22 AM

They really need to do a UFC vs PRIDE at a neutral site. I'd pay to see that on PPV. In a cage with some sort of universal set of rules.

Speeds8erM-1 04-04-2006 04:15 PM

Never gonna see a UFC vs Pride, you cant do it in the cage, you cant do it in the ring, because one favors the other orginazation rules more. Plus the rules are different, no knees or stomps to an opponent on the ground in UFC, no elbows in pride. Pride has done some special rules matches with K1 before though.

Pride would eat UFC alive pretty much, the talent pool is way too deep and they actually PAY their fighters so they can actually have the best, not a bunch of King of the Cage dropouts.

Blue91 04-04-2006 04:20 PM

Pride has elbows... just not to the head, as far as I know.

BigBronco 04-04-2006 05:52 PM


Originally Posted by Vendetta
Gray, what's your Sherdog SN? Or do you just lurk? I'm Big Eck over there.


I never went through and registered. About 2 and a half years of lurking now. Mirko Cro Cop really got me into watching Pride and UFC more then anything. I am still having a hard time to dedicate time for training in fighting. I really need to but traveling and racing and work has got me stomped right now. I have been hitting the grounds for biking and running lately. Need to work on everything else as well.

Any tips on other basic things to start doing to get me started. Punch forms or anything?




Originally Posted by Speeds8erM-1

Pride would eat UFC alive pretty much, the talent pool is way too deep and they actually PAY their fighters so they can actually have the best, not a bunch of King of the Cage dropouts.



The talent and training and fighters would just STOMP UFC for all they are worth. Still would like to see that happen and give some of those fighters for UFC an ass kicking.

Speeds8erM-1 04-04-2006 06:09 PM


Originally Posted by Blue91
Pride has elbows... just not to the head, as far as I know.

This is correct, UFC allows knees to a downed opponent also, just not to the head. Pride's rules are better. UFC just has people doing little short elbows trying to get a cut stoppage. Bleh.

BigBronco 04-06-2006 04:05 PM

arlovski is going to dominate sylvia

Vendetta 04-06-2006 04:30 PM

I don't think Pride's top fighters would dominate UFC's top fighters as much as most people think. Just think about it...

Hughes v. Gomi (160/170 lb)
Franklin v. Hendo (183-185 lb)
Liddell v. Silva (205 lb)
Arlovski v. Fedor (205+)

I'd expect to see Fedor dominate Arlovski, and Hughes dominate Gomi... besides that, I think the other two fights would be pretty damn close. Wow though, imagine a card with those fights on it? I'd pay 200 dollars to see that event, I wouldn't even think twice about it.

Pride's strenght is in it's depth IMO. UFC has absolutely no depth at HW and very little at LHW until Vera and Pe De Pano drop down. They could sign Rampage, but right now the only real accomplished fighters at Light Heavy are Babalu and Chuck. Middleweight has very little depth also, unless UFC can somehow sign Shamrock I don't see anybody stepping up and being a huge threat to Franklin's title. Welterweight is the UFC's class, and it's the biggest reason I watch the UFC. Hughes, Penn, and GSP are possibly the top 3 in the world at 170 lbs, and they're all in the UFC. You've also got Trigg, Sherk, Parisian, and a few others who have a lot of talent fighting in that division.

On the other hand, check out Pride's heavyweight division. Insane. Fedor, Cro Cop, Noguiera, Hunt, Shogun, Werdum, Barnett, Kharitonov, Coleman, Aleks... all great fighters.

Blue91 04-06-2006 05:01 PM

Ultimate Fight Night 4 tonight, followed by the premiere of Ultimate Fighter 3.

7pm CDT on SpikeTV for those interested.

Vendetta 04-06-2006 05:05 PM


Originally Posted by Blue91
Ultimate Fight Night 4 tonight, followed by the premiere of Ultimate Fighter 3.

7pm CDT on SpikeTV for those interested.

I gotta record it, I've got an 8-11pm class tonight :bang: :cry:

I wanna see Ken and Tito on the TUF 3 too. That should be quality comedy programming. :lol:

Speeds8erM-1 04-06-2006 05:51 PM

I dont see Liddel doing so well against Silva or Shogun, Alistair Overeem was giving him hell for awhile and we know what Rampage did to him. Henderson vs Franklin would be interesting, Henderson is no joke. The biggest thing is the depth and how fighters match up with each other, you might have 2 or 3 more in pride waiting inline to take out the UFC guys right after the top guys do.

Vendetta 04-08-2006 10:43 PM


Originally Posted by Speeds8erM-1
I dont see Liddel doing so well against Silva or Shogun, Alistair Overeem was giving him hell for awhile and we know what Rampage did to him. Henderson vs Franklin would be interesting, Henderson is no joke. The biggest thing is the depth and how fighters match up with each other, you might have 2 or 3 more in pride waiting inline to take out the UFC guys right after the top guys do.

I think Liddell is a MUCH better fighter now than he was back in 2003. If you look at that year, he had a VERY hard time with Overeem (who looks awesome at heavyweight now btw, how the fuck did he get so enormous so quick *cough*sauce*cough) until he caught him, he lost to both Randy and Rampage that year. He's a much better fighter now.

I'm definitely not a Chuck fan, he's probably the biggest cornball in the UFC with his mohawk and his homo finger thing he's always doing, but damn he's improved so much over the past few years. The thing I want to see most is him fight a cardio machine with a good chin. How many times int he past couple of years has Chuck gone the distance? He's getting up there in age, he's 37 now, I'd like to see how good his gas is in a long fight. Although he went 3+ rounds with Horn (last summer it hink?) and didn't gas.

Speeds8erM-1 04-08-2006 11:02 PM

Im not a very big Liddel fan either, his stock rose when he beat Couture but honestly it was just a matter of time before somebody figured out Couture's game and didnt go in there timid and scared of the take down. Both seem like nice guys, I dunno, just not a big Couture fan, I do like that Chuck DOES go for the kill when somebody is hurt.

Liddel is more of a counter puncher and somebody that BRINGS it to him usually causes problems, like Rampage. I dont think he could handle Silva and Shogun is a whole nother ballgame at 205, when he heals back up anyway.

Overeem has always been BIG for a LHW, crazy how much weight he was probably cutting at LHW which seemed to kill his cardio. He comes out balls to the wall which makes him look like he is just mauling people but then he gasses. Juicing? 99% of them are Im sure. Overeem has alot of potential though and Im not suprised he gave Chuck hell.

OKCDUDE 04-13-2006 10:19 AM

I love mma im a purple belt in bjj and im trying to train with team punishment this summer


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